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David Robson's avatar

A most interesting and thorough investigation. It prompted me to look at the incidence of Alzheimers in California counties. The following page from the CDPH website shows increases in Alzheimers between 2008-2025 by county, and although Stanislaus County wherein Modesto is located is not included, San Joaquin to the north is. San Joaquin has the third highest increase in Alzheimers. The 1st and 2nd highest are San Bernadino and Kern counties. Is this because they are more arid and therefore more cloud seeding flights are flown? This trend on its own is not enough to show an effect on the incidence of Alzheimers because the confounding effect of age also needs to be studied. Using California Census data for 2000, I established that out of the 58 California counties, 36 had higher percentages of older people (> 65 yrs) than San Joaquin and Stanislaus counties and that 52 out of the 58 had higher percentages than Kern and San Bernadino. Based on these trends it seems that there may indeed be some validity to the claims of deleterious neurological effects from cloud seeding operations.

https://altc.assembly.ca.gov/sites/altc.assembly.ca.gov/files/hearings/CADataReport_full_corrected02262009.pdf

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MellowKat's avatar

Here is a project for Kern county!

I love that you’re looking into this!

Kern River Basin: https://library.oarcloud.noaa.gov/noaa_documents.lib/OAR/OWAQ/Weather_Modification_Project/FY24/Q2/2024WYKE-1.pdf

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MellowKat's avatar

And one more if anyone’s interested.

Santa Barbara 2025: https://library.oarcloud.noaa.gov/noaa_documents.lib/OAR/OWAQ/Weather_Modification_Project/FY25/Q1/2025CASB-1.pdf

I’ve been posting these on my telegram channel for people who live in California.

There are many more!

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David Robson's avatar

Thanks for the response MellowKat. It seems there are a lot of cloud seeding operations going on. I can see I need to be more thorough in my statistical analysis. I will need to try and find more recent studies of the areal distribution of Alzheimer's. A major statistical problem with Alzheimer's incidence post 2021 is the fact that the Covid vaccines will have increased in ALL locations so it would not be possible to categorically lay the blame for any increase on cloud seeding operations. Do you perchance have any records of cloud seeding operations in Kern county and San Bernadino county prior to 2021?

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Stephy  Killmer's avatar

I am grateful you are speaking up. Is there any way you can contact President trump or Elon Musk and try to bring more attention to this.?

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MellowKat's avatar

I suppose if I tagged them on social media, I might have a chance.

I can only imagine they are bombarded.

The more people that tag them and apply pressure, the better.

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Sabrina's avatar

I looked up my state https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1542832. But I still see them laying lines how can I see what your seeing

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MellowKat's avatar

I’m going to host a very informal meeting at some point for everyone to ask questions about reading flight radar 24. That’s what I use. Other folks use different platforms, but this one is the one I’m comfortable with.

And it’s free.

I will post an update when I settle on a date and time. :-) I will do this several times because I really want people to become savvy with identifying aircraft!

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Denigee's avatar

I'd be interested in identifying the planes but they're too far up. They fly over head my house daily or atleast 5 out of 7 days a week coming from Ontario across into Michigan. Patterns are getting crazier looking too with turns, on and off trails, and even an x pattern now. Some patterns look like sunburst rays coming out of the sky. Today was a clear normal sky with round fluffy clouds of years long ago.

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MellowKat's avatar

There are MANY non-federal projects listed in the NOAA library...you might find some areas that you can track...

Start with the smaller projects...the larger (non-federal and military) are harder to prove.

Search "Texas" in the tab at the end of this page and check out the reports: https://library.noaa.gov/weather-climate/weather-modification-project-reports

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Jeffrey's world's avatar

Thank you for that information. I'm on it.

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